Curse

Kanyatta · Jul 30, 2008, 09:20 PM // 21:20

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Originally Posted by Miss Drops Az

Maybe they should give you the game already completed too.../facepalm

/not signed

If you dont want to put the effort in to get a title then fine, but dont QQ that you dont have it.

I have maxed SS and LB on several chars, its pretty easy to do one char completely on a special weekend (I usually get 2 done) so please dont say its hard.

Yes, I have GWAMM and am working on KoaBD on other chars, making titles account wide would yet again be anet sticking (1 or 2) fingers up at the people who made the effort.

Please uninstall the game for the entire community's sake. You obviously either choose to be ignorant or just have no common sense. This doesn't reduce the grind at all, you still have to do the same amount of grind, it's just that we aren't being punished for choosing which characters to do the grind on.

By comparing this to actually playing through the game is just retarded and shows your lack of knowledge. Doing hundreds of SS/LB runs is not the same thing as completing Hell's Precipice.

darkdawn · Jul 31, 2008, 03:05 PM // 15:05

/signed for everything exept lightbringer, sunspear, norn, azuran, deldrimor and vanguard. Points in these affect some quest and some skills so it should stay character based.

seut · Jul 31, 2008, 04:31 PM // 16:31

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Originally Posted by Kinn

its pretty clear to me that for certain titles, there needs to be a way to accelerate the points accumulation for other characters, once you've acheived the title for one already.

For example it would make no sense for a new character to start with r10 Norn, but I see nothing wrong with that character having a certain multiplier on their Norn points accumulation, after another character has already maxed Norn. The multiplier could even increase as more characters on the account max that title.

Call it the "friends in high places" mechanic, if you want

something like this?
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10281437

komma · Jul 31, 2008, 04:32 PM // 16:32

titles are fine the way they are....

MithranArkanere · Jul 31, 2008, 06:14 PM // 18:14

No, they are not, that's why people keep complaining.

It's ok if you have 1 or 2 characters. But if you have 10 it's not the same.

Dr.Jones · Jul 31, 2008, 06:31 PM // 18:31

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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere

No, they are not, that's why people keep complaining.

It's ok if you have 1 or 2 characters. But if you have 10 it's not the same.

10 characters ftw @seut grate idea i would actually like that as a compromise to the titles that would not make seance to be account based.

Ultima pyromancer · Jul 31, 2008, 06:37 PM // 18:37

/signed

everybody will be GWAM soon so what does it matter if crap titles like ss/lb/norn etc. are account based?

Parson Brown · Jul 31, 2008, 08:15 PM // 20:15

Drunkard
- Sweet Tooth
- Treasure Hunter
- Wisdom
*****Agreed with the above

- Lightbringer
- Sunspear
- Asura
- Deldrimor
- Ebon Vanguard
- Norn
***** Disagree with these for a reason the OP hinted at... Maxing one of these titles makes it much easier for future characters to complete campaigns. I mean starting Nightfall with Max Lightbringer?

No_Burdens · Aug 01, 2008, 05:34 PM // 17:34

/signed still yet again

Abedeus · Aug 01, 2008, 06:26 PM // 18:26

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Originally Posted by Parson Brown

Drunkard
- Sweet Tooth
- Treasure Hunter
- Wisdom
*****Agreed with the above

- Lightbringer
- Sunspear
- Asura
- Deldrimor
- Ebon Vanguard
- Norn
***** Disagree with these for a reason the OP hinted at... Maxing one of these titles makes it much easier for future characters to complete campaigns. I mean starting Nightfall with Max Lightbringer?

Starting Factions with Max Luxon/Kurzick.

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Maxing one of these titles makes it much easier for future characters to complete campaigns.

You mean... if someone already did it 5 times, he must do it 5 more times? God.

Stop being so god damn selfish. Some people have 10 character and you are forcing us/them to use just one or two. We are not asking for repeatable end-game rewards or 50k for every mission, it's a simple thing so that people having multiple characters don't have to suffer needlessly.

JupiterStarWarrior · Aug 02, 2008, 12:26 AM // 00:26

Actually starting Factions with Maxed Luxon/Kurzick Title Tracks has no effect on the game (except when you start getting those Skills), at least none that I've seen. What DOES affect the campaign is how much UNSPENT Kurzick/Faction you've got.

I disagree with this because I think it's fine the way it is. The title tracks mentioned (Asuran, Deldrimor, Norn, etc) should be character-based. Why? Because each character should have a base reputation. I mean, think of it logically (like someone who doesn't know what's happening, what's going on, etc.)...

Character A (who should be referred to as "You") arrive at Eye of the North. The Asurans don't know you. The Norn don't know you. If you're from Tyria, the dwarves have seen you. But if you're from Cantha or Elona, they don't. Same with the Ebon Vanguard. Actually, come to think of it, the Ebon Vanguard may not even know you at all. You're from Tyria and know Gwen, but you don't know her fate since the Searing. Then you start to build a rapport with these people. You "accumulate reputation", as it were. Soon, you're well known with these people.

Character B (who we should say could be a family member, or something; something to represent a "real-world second character" in the same place and time), meanwhile, starts off same as you do. So, it doesn't make sense that this second character would have more reputation than you would when you're just starting out.

You have to remember that when you do a mission, you're playing that mission in the time line that mission was set for. For example, let's say you're doing the Nolani Academy mission, then go through the Shiverpeaks to the Gates of Kryta. If you decide to do the Nolani Academy mission again, you're back in the frame of time before the events at Gates of Kryta were done.

It's hard to explain, but that's the best I can do for now. >_>

bryann380 · Aug 02, 2008, 02:40 AM // 02:40

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Originally Posted by Ultima pyromancer

everybody will be GWAM soon

Correction... not "everyboby" will ever get that. My main character is almost 3 years old and is not even at the first tier of KoaBD. Personally, it wouldn't bother me if I never did. Unlike most GW players these days, I'm not obsessed with vanity or title prestige.

And in my opinion, all titles should be character based. I repeat, ALL titles. That includes PvP ones. If your main character reached r6 or whatever after weeks/months of gameplay, why should a brand new pvp character you make automatically be that rank too? He was just created and didn't even earn 1 point of that rank himself.

Why should one character be rewarded for another character's accomplishments?

Kanyatta · Aug 02, 2008, 02:57 AM // 02:57

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Originally Posted by bryann380

And in my opinion, all titles should be character based. I repeat, ALL titles. That includes PvP ones. If your main character reached r6 or whatever after weeks/months of gameplay, why should a brand new pvp character you make automatically be that rank too? He was just created and didn't even earn 1 point of that rank himself.

Why should one character be rewarded for another character's accomplishments?

Some people don't take role-playing that seriously to think of each of their characters individually. I just think "Well, me, *insert your real life name here*, achieved rank 6 in Hero's Ascent, so, I should have that rank if I play the game."

Marverick · Aug 02, 2008, 03:05 AM // 03:05

IMO don't make them account based.

For every character on your account who has attained the maximum rank in a grind-based title (SS, LB, reputation), all other characters in your account need 20% less points for each rank in that title.

Ziggy546 · Aug 05, 2008, 05:08 AM // 05:08

Look let me put it simply as a person who has 10 characters. I'd love for Drunkard, Sweet tooth, party animal, treasure hunter, and wisdom to be account wide. But I see no reason as to why Sunspear/Light Bringer/GWEN have to be account wide. If you beat gwen, you get a rank 5 in something, Sunspear if you beat nightfall you get a rank 7 in, and Light Bringer you can get a rank 5 in easily. They aren't hard titles to max at all. Now I see how people are saying "well, you start factions out with max Kurzick/luxon". Yeah do you know how long it takes to do that. Its an extra 4 levels above Ss/lb/gwen. And not to mention its difficult, lots of abing or hfffing. Which needless to say = a lot of time. You should actually want to play not have stuff handed to you and by making ss/lb/gwen account wide you've now introduced a new form of laziness.

Thizzle · Aug 05, 2008, 06:24 AM // 06:24

Why does everyone think this issue is about obtaining GWAMM? I personally don't give a rat's ass what it says under my name. It's about the fact that it takes a huge amount of time to max reputation titles alone and to do it on more than 1 character is just ridiculous.

MithranArkanere · Aug 05, 2008, 02:54 PM // 14:54

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Originally Posted by Thizzle

Why does everyone think this issue is about obtaining GWAMM? I personally don't give a rat's ass what it says under my name. It's about the fact that it takes a huge amount of time to max reputation titles alone and to do it on more than 1 character is just ridiculous.

Exactly!
People opened chests before Treasure Hunter or GWAMM ever existed.
People identified items before Wisdom or GWAMM ever existed.

And I also gave one or two qys to prevent characters from getting insta-GWAMM, like keeping two titles, one account and one character, and using the character version for GWAMM and plot and the account version for skills and effect.

So the only ones that can really opose this are the ones that got GWAMM with ore than one character and want everyone to grind in the same way.

pamelf · Aug 05, 2008, 11:30 PM // 23:30

I marvel at the sheer number of signatures on this thread. The HoM update is going in the right direction, but I still think I agree that they should be account based, and not just account displayed...

obsidian ectoplasm · Aug 05, 2008, 11:35 PM // 23:35

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Originally Posted by Parson Brown

Drunkard
- Sweet Tooth
- Treasure Hunter
- Wisdom
*****Agreed with the above

- Lightbringer
- Sunspear
- Asura
- Deldrimor
- Ebon Vanguard
- Norn
***** Disagree with these for a reason the OP hinted at... Maxing one of these titles makes it much easier for future characters to complete campaigns. I mean starting Nightfall with Max Lightbringer?

I would agree with that

pamelf · Aug 05, 2008, 11:57 PM // 23:57

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Originally Posted by Parson Brown

Drunkard
- Sweet Tooth
- Treasure Hunter
- Wisdom
*****Agreed with the above

- Lightbringer
- Sunspear
- Asura
- Deldrimor
- Ebon Vanguard
- Norn
***** Disagree with these for a reason the OP hinted at... Maxing one of these titles makes it much easier for future characters to complete campaigns. I mean starting Nightfall with Max Lightbringer?

Asura, Deldrimor, Ebon and Norn do not however affect gamplay. I can agree with you on Lightbringer and Sunspear, but the others are really only for PvE skills and armour. You still need to do EOTN to actually GET the PvE skill, and apart from the cosmetic aspect there is no reason why those 4 shouldnt' be account based. After all, I find it VERY annoying having to grind or play all the way through EOTN just to buy armour...